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Postby Voda2000 » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:46 pm

Hi,
I just purchased an Albacore hull number 2410.  I don't know much about the boat other than it was built in the late 60's early 70's.  I've looked at http://www.albacore.org/USA/members/pub ... bacore.asp but couldn't find a boat that looked exactly like mine. 
It has a Proctor mast on it and I'm sure I'm going to have some questions rigging it up.
I have been sailing a Sea Snark for a few years and me and my fiancee decided it was time to get a bigger boat that we could sail together more easily.
Like I said I'm still learing about Albacores but I'm hoping that I will be able to get some help when I need it from here.
I guess my first question is does anyone know of a source for a book I could buy or a pdf i coudl download that explaining a little about how these boats work and assemble.  I realize the rigging is unique to the boat but I'm looking for a general guide.
Thanks for the help.
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Postby Guest » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:34 am

Judging from the sail number it would have to be around '67-'68, if not a bit earlier.  This web site has plenty of info and articles you can look over for rigging ideas, and there's even a recent thread on the subject in this forum.  You'll find a lot of knowledgable people out here in the forum who will be happy to assist you.
How did you find your Albacore?  There's been a bit of discussion recently on bringing new people like yourself into the class, and it's thought that hundreds of hulls might be sitting unused in garages and back yards, waiting for the right owner to come along...Rubbermaid39371.236099537
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Postby Guest » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:58 am

Andrew-

Based on the hull/sail number (#2410) I'd guess you have an early Skene Albacore. I find record of this hull number built in 1968 and listed to an owner in Ottawa. Check the photo of #6040 and see if it is close to yours. I don't have any good photos of a Skene as old as yours, so if you could take some (from transom looking forward to show cockpit detail) then I could help ID your boat and post them on the web for others to see.

You can post photos to your server and link to this forum, or e-mail to me at sailfaster@aol.com.

Where are you and the boat located?

Welcome to the Albacore class. I hope we get you up and sailing soon.
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Postby townsend » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:18 am

Here
are some more photos of 6040. It doesn't show much in the way of rigging (and much of what it does show has been redone) but it's a start. If your boat looks like this I could be persuaded to take some more shots that show the current setup.

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Postby Voda2000 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:33 pm

Kent,
I think I might have found the topic you are refering to about the rigging.  I've been reading as much as I can about it but as the weather is getting cold I think most of my figuring out will have to wait until the spring.

I found this one puerly by chance.  We were taking about boats one day at work over lunch and I said that I had been looking for a sailboat.  One of the summer students commented that his dad had a sailboat that he was thinking about selling.  And a month later I finaly got a chance to see it and bought it a week later.
Peter,
I emailed you the photos because my ftp isn't working.  I don't think 6040 is the same as mine the bow tank looks differnt and the transom is different.  Also the center is different.
The sails have "KC" on them.  What exactly does that mean?  I've seen it on a few but most have "CAN" or "USA". 
Also one set of sails is dated 1973 and the other is 1993. Both are number 2410 as is the hull.
I'm in Winnipeg Manitoba but I will be sailing mostly in the Whiteshell Provincial Park.
Paul,
Thanks for postng the photos.
All,
Thanks for the warm welcome.
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Postby Guest » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:55 am

Andrew-

You are correct, this boat has some distinctly different features than 6040.   I suspect this is a Skene, but even an earlier vintage than 6040. The moulded in splash rail on the bow deck is my biggest clue. I think Skene was the only one to do this, maybe McGruer and Clark. The earliest McGruer boats start at about #2700- so unless your boat is misnumbered, then it is probably not a McGruer. Further on the numbering, the CAA records show built 7 boats (not in consecutive order) in the range #2405-2424. The other boats don't appear in the Canadian records, so were probably UK boats.   I'll ponder all of this a bit more.

If it proves to be a Skene, then my notes on the ID Albacore are in error, and I'll have to amend them.   I'd thought that the earliest Skenes had the stern deck and dual thwarts. I may have to review this with Ann White (daughter of Wally White, the founder of Skene).

Thanks for the info you may have filled a black hole in my knowledge.
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Postby townsend » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:45 am

Voda2000 wrote:
The sails have "KC" on them. What exactly does that mean?   


It means the sails are old. (c:

"KC" is the old abbreviation for Canada. All the Canadian sails from that era were marked KC.

It was changed to CAN sometime in the 80's.townsend39372.281724537
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Postby Voda2000 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:34 pm

Peter,
Thanks for looking in to it.  I'll be interested in finding out the results.  If you need more pictures just let me know.
Also the hull number plate looks orginial so I am sure the number of the boat is really 2410.
Hopefully we can fill in some of that balck hole for you
Paul,
Thanks for clearing up the "KC" vs "CAN" .  Based on what you said it's strange that the newer sails (1993) have "KC" on them.  Oh well it's good to know now.
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Postby Voda2000 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:09 pm

Peter,

I was wondering if you ever found anything out about my boat #2410.

Thanks,

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Postby Guest » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:23 am

Andrew-

Nothing else yet. Did you send or post more photos for me to look at? I've recently acquired Skene 4192 (or is it 4197?). I'll be curious to see how this boat compares to yours (I've not yet had a chance to photograph 4192). They were probably built within 2 years of each other as the late 1960's and early 1970's was the peak of Albacore production.
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Re: New member 2410

Postby Voda2000 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:36 am

Digging up an old thread.

After getting married, buying a house and having a kid I finally got back in to sailing 5 years later.

I was wondering if anyone ever found anything out about the maker of my boat.

This one looks very similar http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/ottawa/ ... nFlag=true

I can take photos of mine and upload them, just let me know what to take them of.

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Re: New member 2410

Postby henry » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:23 pm

Not being able to see it too closely that boat in the Kijiji ad does resemble an early model Skene.
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Re: New member 2410

Postby townsend » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:12 am

henry wrote:Not being able to see it too closely that boat in the Kijiji ad does resemble an early model Skene.


Yes, it resembles an early Skene, but there are a few differences between it and my Skene Mk1:

* floatation tanks extend all the way to the transom
* transom deck is different
* splashguard looks different
* gunwales appear to be narrower

It might be an early Skene, but it's a bit different than my MK 1. That's pretty clearly an OY behind it in the picture.

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Re: New member 2410

Postby Voda2000 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:18 pm

Ok I'm going to upload some photos of 2410.
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Re: New member 2410

Postby Voda2000 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:24 pm

And more.
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Re: New member 2410

Postby Voda2000 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:31 pm

Last ones for tonight.
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